tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post3973927624253727848..comments2024-03-28T02:14:56.036-07:00Comments on Goblinoid Games: Key 20 RIPDan of Earthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04957424338566461756noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-55832363779927201582009-02-17T19:53:00.000-08:002009-02-17T19:53:00.000-08:00That is a drag. Earlier tonight I again spammed th...That is a drag. Earlier tonight I again spammed the internets in the hope of getting a LL game going here is West Los Angeles. I hope to spread the word of what a great game you have.<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/>Christanchristianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09650456794111980661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-55046250057398756482009-02-14T15:20:00.000-08:002009-02-14T15:20:00.000-08:00That is sad news indeed. I hope that LL finds regu...That is sad news indeed. I hope that LL finds regular circulation soon, and that things start going better for Key 20.BlUsKrEEmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050270487818381832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-57646572102550244362009-02-14T06:53:00.000-08:002009-02-14T06:53:00.000-08:00Keep in mind that all I know about the business en...<I>Keep in mind that all I know about the business end of gaming is that there are these mysterious middle men...</I><BR/><BR/>...and when you work through a consolodator it's worse. For instance, here is how it worked with Key 20.<BR/><BR/>First you have to pay the printer.<BR/><BR/>Second you pay to ship the load to the warehouse.<BR/><BR/>Third you pay the consolidator for their services. You pay something for shipping again.<BR/><BR/>The books are sold at about 40% MSRP (it varies) to the distributor, so they can sell them for a profit. <BR/><BR/>Then the retailer sells them at MSRP.<BR/><BR/>So in the end after all expenses I wasn't getting much from each book. Part of that is my fault for underpricing LL at 17.95. It has been clear to me that the price probably should be about 19.95 to make distro more realistic.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, sorry for rambling.Dan of Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04957424338566461756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-31850395885656664232009-02-14T06:48:00.000-08:002009-02-14T06:48:00.000-08:00Noble Knight was getting LL through Key 20, and th...Noble Knight was getting LL through Key 20, and they seem to be willing to deal directly with small press people so they might be willing to deal direct. The real trick is to be able to make it worth while, and that can be hard with small POD orders because by the time you print them, sell them at the retailer discount, and ship them, you may as well just give them away.<BR/><BR/>I think there are solutions, and I'll be looking into them. My hands are tied somewhat until I get back to the US next month. I have thought about IPR and maybe I'll contact them to see if they are interested. I've got about 60+ copies of LL ready to go.Dan of Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04957424338566461756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-48337748742514697312009-02-14T06:15:00.000-08:002009-02-14T06:15:00.000-08:00Pity you can't just ship them to somewhere like No...<B>Pity you can't just ship them to somewhere like Noble Knight Games yourself.</B><BR/><BR/>Keep in mind that all I know about the business end of gaming is that there are these mysterious middle men call distributors who seem to muck things up for everybody yet are also apparently indispensable, but exactly why can't one just ring up Noble Knight and try to work with them directly?Jeff Rientshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-40384685309757898022009-02-14T05:57:00.000-08:002009-02-14T05:57:00.000-08:00That is bad news all round. I hope that Jason's fo...That is bad news all round. I hope that Jason's fortunes recover quickly and that you find another equally reliable distributor in good time.<BR/><BR/>Pity you can't just ship them to somewhere like <I>Noble Knight Games</I> yourself.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05646247954542936623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-37624306019307086192009-02-14T03:42:00.000-08:002009-02-14T03:42:00.000-08:00Anyone losing the opportunity to do what they enjo...Anyone losing the opportunity to do what they enjoy due to financial gloom is so sad.<BR/><BR/>Still good to hear that Labyrinth Lord is still moving.Brendan Falconerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05981719537527659745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-59537215759063574132009-02-14T03:17:00.000-08:002009-02-14T03:17:00.000-08:00If you are looking for a new venue for getting the...If you are looking for a new venue for getting the books to distribution, you might consider indie press revolution.<BR/><BR/>Indie press revolution (IPR for short, address <A>http://www.indiepressrevolution.com</A> ) does sell to distributors. Though it is associated with story games, there is other sorts of games also available. A link to their prospective publisher FAQ: <A>http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/public/IPR%20Prospective%20Publisher%20FAQ.pdf</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-50591686680083808292009-02-14T02:46:00.000-08:002009-02-14T02:46:00.000-08:00It's definitely a bummer, but I feel much worse fo...It's definitely a bummer, but I feel much worse for Jason at Key 20. I don't know if Key 20 was entirely his livelihood or not, but it must be much much harder for him.Dan of Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04957424338566461756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-737080860119263961.post-7955955225352655122009-02-14T02:30:00.000-08:002009-02-14T02:30:00.000-08:00That's sad news Dan.That's sad news Dan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com